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but this is how i personally choose to categorise them. ultimately since the Ultra franchise doesn't place the same emphasis on Final Forms (最終フォーム) the same way KR does, you're more than free to decide for yourself what counts as an Ultra's final form.
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even Rider used 最強フォーム (strongest form) x.com/arditoAW/statu…
These debate won't happen if you guys stop using "final form" as the term, confusing the order of the appearance as the valid answer. Official Japanese sites use 最強フォーム (strongest form) I don't know who started using final in the English-speaking fandom, was it Decade?
